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photo by SPIKE
Any
climber who has visited Yosemite in the last 30 years will have
heard of a man named Chongo. If you were lucky enough to meet
him, your first impression was probably of some crazed bum who
tried to talk your ear off with his whacked out physics theories.
True. Then, if you asked around a bit, you'd discover that this
man was actually somewhat of a big wall guru. True. If you then
endured his lectures for long enough, you might even have convinced
yourself that he really knew what he was talking about; that
yes he's crazy, but in a more crazed brilliance sort of way.
Undeniably true.
Regardless of your
impression of Chongo, the fact is that there is currently a
man living in Yosemite valley, who has lived there for over
30 years as an unemployed bum, who has written the most comprehensive
big wall book ever, and who now spends every waking hour pondering
the intricacies of quantum physics.
Full Name?
Chongo
<It's Charles Tucker>
Date of Birth?
Who cares.
<He's 52, don't know his B-Day>
Years in the Valley? 39
You are known to be a bit
of a big wall aficionado. How many walls have you climbed in
your lifetime?
Not very many. I lived on Sea of Dreams for
about a year, developing aid technology and writing my book
("The Complete Book of Big Wall Climbing - Volume 1",
by Chongo Chuck). My specialty is how to efficiently haul loads
to the top of El Cap.
Any first ascents?
No.
In the 39 years that
you've lived in the valley, have you ever climbed on any buildings?
In the valley? No. There are too many good
rocks around. But when I was 29 I climbed a building at San
Luis Obispo College and broke both my arms. I was showing off
for a girl.
What happened?
I fell backwards from about 20ft. I put out
my arms to prevent landing on my back, and *snap*. I was lucky
I didn't break my back.
How did you fall?
It was a lieback, and there was dust at the
top. I just peeled off. Definitely the stupidest thing I've
ever done.
Did the girl ditch
you?
No she hung around. She would give me showers
and stuff.
Any other buildering
stories?
Nope. That kinda took it out of me.
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Have
you ever tried bridge or crane swinging?
No. I'm too old now. That shit doesn't interest
me. Although I did do a rope jump with Dan Osman a few years
back. A 250ft jump off the Rostrum. I was good buddies with
Dano. He used to think I was something else, he'd call me the
"guru".
What about slack-lining?
Darren Carter and I started off this whole
slack-lining craze in the early 90s. We used to practice between
trees, and then we took it high up... like across Lost Arrow
Spire. I was the third guy across Lost Arrow Spire. First Dean
Potter, then Darren Carter, and then me.
Were you scared?
When you get old you get less scared, cause
you just don't give a fuck. I've already lived my life. When
you get older you have a harder time getting motivated to go
out and do things, but when you do it's definitely less scary.
Did you use a backup (have
a harness)?
Yup. Although Darren and Dean have since done
it without a backup. But these guys can do it. They are strong
men. Even if they fell they could grab the line, and you know
they aren't letting go.
Do you know who Alain
Robert is?
Uhmmm.... Fag-Bonet's climbing partner?
Who?
Fag-Bonet. It's a valley joke that we tell
around here. No... don't print that. Leave that out.
Alain Robert is the
french Spiderman. The guy who climbs all the skyscrapers.
Good for him.
Tell me a little about
the Piton Pete debacle.
<Pass the Piton Pete (Pete Zabrok) is a contributing writer
for Rock&Ice magazine. He currently authors a monthly column
entitled "Ask Dr. Piton" an advice column for aspiring
big wall climbers.>
When I was writing my big wall book Pete agreed
to be editor, and in return I'd show him how to be rad. So I
taught him everything I know about wall climbing.
And then he stole that information,
claiming it as his own?
Not everything, but all I know is that I see
my work in climbing magazines, with no credit given. I spent
years of my life developing this technology, the least he could
do is give credit where credit is due. Especially the 2 to 1
hauling ratchet [appearing in Climbing #129], if there is one
thing I didn't want stolen from me it is that.
Do you make much money off
your big wall book?
No. I don't need money. People give me food,
and any money I make off books goes back to my printer.
Do you think if you lowered
the cost of your book [which he sells for $100US], that you'd
sell more copies, and make more money?
I can't. That book costs me $60 to print, it's
700 pages long, and such a pain in the ass to manage. That book
is way too big. It has absolutely everything in it. What I should
do is break it up into smaller books and sell them separately.
You are working on other
books as well...
I'm working on five or six at a time. I produce
so much material in a day. I have over twenty books total.
Wow twenty?
Well the big wall book counts for ten.
Tell me a bit about your
other books.
Physics man. It's badass. Quantum mechanics,
pushes, tilting in four dimensions, everything is physics. And
it never changes. Right now I'm working on the question "what
is information?" ...
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<Chongo
goes on for 20 mins non-stop on physics, but my quickly scribbled
notes could never do the intricacies justice. I studied half
a chapter of quantum physics in high school, and I never understood
it. Chongo tells me it's because my teachers never understood
it either.>
What got you so interested
in physics?
Well I got to a stage in my life where I started
asking the question "What the fuck is going on?" Theoretical
physics asks that question. You have religion which gives you
answers, but it's physics that asks "What the fuck is going
on?"
Isn't theoretical
physics, in it's attempt to explain the universe, just another
religion?
What? Religion is stating assertions. Science
is the pursuit of truth. Religion is the pursuit of a particular
preference of truth, that which benefits the devotee.
Did you take physics
in university?
Nope, self taught. Every year a group of physicists
come to the valley for a conference, and they all sit at this
table. <THE table in the Yosemite Cafeteria, where you can
almost always find Chongo working hard on his next book>
We talk about physics for hours, and they call me a physicist...
like one of their own.
If your book "The
face of the observer: an explanation of physical reality"
sold a million copies, what would you do with the money?
I'd make sure a whole lot more books got written.
My goal is to educate the uneducated masses, which is the most
difficult endeavour one could ever pursue. Way harder than walking
across Lost Arrow Spire.
Why is it that Americans
are so uneducated?
Because educators aren't capable of competing
with advertisers. And educators simply don't care enough. Exceptions:
those who try hard to teach science and math.
Who are you voting
for in the next federal election?
Americans deserve Bush. I'm going to make a
big sign during the next election and put it up: "Americans
deserve Bush". They deserve a president who is just like
themselves: white trash. That includes all races by the way.
But what about the
rest of the world? Do they deserve Bush fueled imperialism?
Sadly the rest of the world does not.
Bert vs. Ernie in
an arm-wrestle, who would win?
I could give a fuck.
Chongo vs. Piton Pete?
<stares at me blankly>
Any insider tips for
living cost free in the valley?
It's a plan that will not work anymore in the
brave new American world.
To
read more about Chongo, check out this thread
posted in rockclimbing.com. For more info on Chongo's physics
books, visit chongonation.com.
(note: site didn't work at time of writing)

Karl dropping $100US on Chongo's
Book. Who's crazier?
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